Tom McNally on the Daily Politics explaining why the Lib Dems are going to vote to ratify the Lisbon Treaty despite the no vote.
McNally: "They haven't told us what they want to do next".
Andrew Neil: "Yes they have - they just said no!"
McNally worked for Jean Monnet in the 60s. I don't think anything that could happen or any argument anyone could advance would make him change his mind now.
That's the problem with the appointed Lords - its a snapshot of the politics of 30 years ago.